In this episode, I talk to Mary Otto-Chang.

Mary is a former employee of the United Nations who had a very gratifying and respectable career there.

Then 2020 happened—and like many of us, she started looking into the Great Reset and 4IR agenda—and was so appalled by it that she felt the urge to act.

Mary then created a communication campaign to educate UN employees, government workers and citizens of Canada in general about the Great Reset agenda and the 4IR, in the language that is easy to digest. She went for it as a solo warrior, a move that takes some guts. Currently, she is reaching out to people—including in the UN—bringing their attention to what really is going on.

Taking a leap into the unknown, as one human being, is not an easy thing to do. I admire Mary’s courage. And so on my podcast, we talked about her personal journey, the challenges she faces, friends gained and lost, and also about the impact of the agreement between the United Nations and the World Economic Forum that created a public-private partnership of gigantic proportions and opened a huge can of worms.

Please take a listen, and maybe some interesting collaborations may come out of this. You can contact Mary at