In this episode, I talk to Ron “Blondie Boy” Thaler, who happens to be one of my most favorite people in the world.

Ron is a 3-time Grammy & 11-time #1 Billboard record producer, recording artist, drummer, songwriter, and entrepreneur. He is credited on over 450 albums and 43 billion streams. Ron is best known by fans as the drummer on Alicia Keys’ double Grammy-award-winning No One, and as a character and bandmember on NBC TV’s primetime series Lipstick Jungle. Blondie Boy has worked with Rob Thomas, Lana Del Rey, Moby, Taj Mahal, Jewel, Gwen Stefani, Willie Nelson & Hank Williams Jr., David Guetta, Slash, John Legend, Bethany Joy Lenz, Sarah McLachlan, Billy Ocean & Denise Pearson, Al DiMeola, Mike Stern, Matt Garrison, Oz Noy, Rick Margitza, Rufus Reid, Hiram Bullock, 12XPretty, and many others.

Ron and I talk about language, debate the current situation (in a very abstract way)—and in the process, prove that sincere and respectful dialogue trumps differences in opinion.

You can find out more about Ron by going to his website: